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Minutes of AGM held on 15th September 2014 at the Talbot

 

Present:  Dave Cooper, Neil Davies, Shaun Done, Richard Evans, Derek Jones, John Lea, Ray Potbury, John Pritchard (minutes), Ted Randles, Barry Tipton, Margaret Walker, Nigel Walker.

 

Apologies: John Kenyon, Pat Wallace.

 

The Chairman opened the meeting at 8.10pm, welcomed all those present and thanked everyone for attending. A brief resume of the Agenda was given to those present.

 

1. Election of Officials

The first item on the agenda was the Election of Officials and the following people were nominated, proposed, seconded and elected:-
 

Position

Last year's Committee

Nominated / Elected for 2014 / 2015

Proposed by

Seconded by

Chairman

John Pritchard

John Pritchard

Barry Tipton

Ray Potbury

Vice Chairman

Dave Cooper

Dave Cooper

Nigel Walker

John Lea

Secretary

John Pritchard

John Pritchard

John Lea

Ted Randles

Treasurer

Dave Cooper

Dave Cooper

Ray Potbury

John Lea

Committee Gordon Vickers Gordon Vickers Dave Cooper Ray Potbury
Committee Ted Randles Ted Randles Barry Tipton John Lea

Committee

Barry Tipton Barry Tipton

John Pritchard

John Lea

Committee

Margaret Walker Margaret Walker

John Lea

John Pritchard

Committee

Pat Wallace Pat Wallace

John Pritchard

Ted Randles

Committee Ray Lamb Ray Lamb John Lea Ray Potbury
Committee John Lea John Lea Margaret Walker John Pritchard
Committee Billy Williams Billy Williams Ted Randles Dave Cooper
Committee Neil Davies Neil Davies John Pritchard Ted Randles
Committee Brian Welch  
Committee Mike Turner  
Committee Chris Barlow  
Committee   Richard Evans Dave Cooper Ray Potbury

 

Ray Lamb, Gordon Vickers, Pat Wallace and Billy Williams could not make the meeting tonight, but were nominated for the Committee again and were all duly proposed, seconded and elected.      Richard Evans volunteered to join the Committee and was duly elected. Welcome on board Richard!

 

2. Statement of Accounts

The Treasurer presented the Statement of Accounts for 2013-14 and copies were made available for those present.   After everyone had had chance to look at the figures, and Treasurer Dave Cooper went through some of the items, Ted Randles proposed that the Accounts be accepted as a true record of the league's financial situation, this was seconded by Barry Tipton and carried unanimously by all present.

 

3. Any Other Business

The Chairman informed the meeting that we could expect 11 teams to enter the Winter League.  The Cross Foxes, United Services, Bawn Lodge, Royal Oak, Olde Cottage, Union Vaults, Spital Vaults, Talbot, St. Werburgh's, St. Theresa's, and a newly formed Little Oak team.  Sadly, the Egerton Arms would not be entering this Winter League.  John Lea then informed the meeting that there was a strong possibility that the Cross Foxes would enter a 'B' team, this is to be confirmed with Landlord Mark on Wednesday (17th Sept) when the Cross Foxes play the Little Oak in a friendly game. 

 

Four formal written proposals have been received for the meeting to consider, so these were then discussed, considered and voted on it turn.    (All the proposals can be read here).

 

Proposal 1
Submitted by John Clarke, the proposal is to introduce a handicap system on one of the 8-a-side competitions.  Some discussion followed on the pros and cons.   Richard Evans and John Lea were both against the proposal as cup games are played on neutral tables anyway, which took a lot of the advantage away. Neil Davies and Derek Jones were in favour, Neil pointed out "otherwise the better teams always win" and Derek saying it would encourage younger teams like Bawn Lodge and give them more of a chance of winning a trophy, which Nigel Walker agreed with.    The meeting voted, and the vote was 4-4 with some abstentions.   Proposal 1 was therefore not carried and there will not be a handicapped cup next season.    FAILED

 

Proposal 2
Submitted by John Clarke, the proposal is to move one of the 8-a-side cups to a Wednesday night, to see if it stops "no-shows" or encourages more teams to enter.   John Lea and Ted Randles were against in principle, as cups have always traditionally been played on Thursdays.  Most other people seemed to favour the idea, however, and when the meeting voted it was 7-3 in favour of the proposal.   Therefore, either the Northgate Cup or West Cheshire Shield will be played on Wednesday evenings next year, with the proviso that it can be reviewed next year if it is deemed not to be working.    PASSED

Proposal 3
Submitted by Neil Davies, proposal 3 looks to reward teams who have 8 players present by awarding them a point, win, lose or draw, the idea being to encourage teams to have 8 players, rather than relying in 6+2 or 5+3.  Ray Potbury said all teams would play 8 men if they had them, so why penalise teams who do their best to complete fixtures but just can't get a full 8 players.  Others felt it unnecessary to give home teams a point just for having 8 players, because they could pluck anyone out of the pub and put them on, if needed.    However, the suggestion was that it might work for just away teams.     The meeting voted on the proposal as it was submitted and the voting was 1-7 against.   However, if the additional point was just given to away teams who had eight players, the voting of the meeting changed to 6-2 in favour.    Therefore, next season, away teams that have eight players will receive an additional point, whether they win, lose or draw.    PASSED when amended to away sides only.

Proposal 4
Submitted by John Clarke, the proposal was to replace the 6+2 rule, and instead fill empty slots with a standard 40 points.    This idea was discussed by the meeting, but it was clear no-one really approved of it.   An alternative suggested by the chairman was to allow lowest scoring players to play again, but cap their score at 40 points rather than just award 40 points, but this had no support either.   The meeting voted and the proposal was unanimously rejected.    FAILED

With the introduction of a cup on a Wednesday, the chairman informed the meeting that the league will start earlier than normal, and this season it will start on Wednesday, 15th October.   Fixtures will be published by the end of the September.    John Lea and Barry Tipton undertook to find out about the Cross Foxes B team for sure and let the chairman know ASAP.

There being no other business, the Chairman thanked everyone for attending and closed the meeting at 9.15pm.

Minutes taken by John Pritchard.

END OF MINUTES

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